The .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire (WMR) and the .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (HMR) are two wallet-friendly cartridges that can be used for small game hunting, varmint control, and high-volume target shooting, among many other uses. The 10/22 M has been discontinued. I would recomend you go and spend $250-300 and just buy a savage or marlin SS . The original Model 1 .22 LR rimfire rifle has been modified over the years and reached its zenith with the 455.. My main cartridge is the .22/250 in a Rem 700 BDL with a 4x16x40 scope hand loaded with 35grs of 4060 pushing a 55gr bthp . The stock has a 13.8 length of pull and is non-adjustable. I had .17 HMRs in my .22 Magnum magazine of my Marlin model 882 22 mag rifle. Nov 23, 2020. I need a .17 caliber barrel for my standard 10/22 receiver to shoot 17 mach2. If your barrel and chamber can't shoot with the Hornady .17 V-Max bullet that means you can't use half the ammo on the market today. The STI 10/22 trigger has an 8 oz first stage take up. when the .17 HM2 come out a few eyars back I preferred it to be called the .17 Mach 2 because that sounded alot less like .17 HMR. Here's How It Works: The 17 Hornady Mach 2 (HM2) is a 17 caliber version of the 22 LR rimfire cartridge. So, the cost difference is negligible for these cartridges. The blow-back semi-automatic Ruger 10/22 needs more bolt mass to time its fire, eject, and rechamber cycle to work right with this faster shooting 17 HM2 round. The CZ range of rimfire and centrefire rifles has served the UK sporting fraternity very well for decades now, and still provides exceptionally reassuring quality at a fair price. it makes no sense to name such similar cartidges such similar names just for reasons like this. The Leupold VX-II 3-9x33mm AO Rimfire EFR would be my choice. At press time it was $4.99 for a box of 50, or $90.99 for 1000 rounds. It'll be pretty quiet with . C. I'll always call it the Mach 2. Both are based on a 17 grn. 17 hm2. Ron V. wrote:The most common route to perform a conversion for the project you are intending to do is to first start with a Ruger 10/22M (.22 mag) and not a regular 10/22 (.22 lr).The 10/22M utilizes a steel receiver (with integral scope base) instead of aluminum alloy as what used for the 10/22. For a round no longer than a .22 LR, the .17 HM2 has the potential velocity of around 2000 fps out of a rifle. The .17 Hornady Mach 2, or .17 HM2, is a rimfire cartridge introduced in 2004 by the ammunition manufacturer Hornady, following the successful launch in 2002 of the .17 HMR.The .17 HM2 is based on the .22 Long Rifle "Stinger" case, necked down to .17 caliber (4.5 mm) and using a bullet weighing less than half the weight of a typical .22 Long Rifle bullet. I also have a Ruger #1 re barreled with a Lilja barrel in 17 Fire Ball that does the same from 100 out. I have used the .17 Rem mag on coyote out to 350 yards with great success. Manufacturers of barrels and guns figured this out years ago and do not offer these conversion barrels, nor is there . Here's How It Worked: The 17 Hornady Mach 2 (HM2) is a 17 caliber version of the 22 LR rimfire cartridge. He did put the project on hold to enjoy raising his 3 daughters. I have had and used all three on ground hogs. My decision for target shooting was based on ammo costs. Ballistically, there's no contest between the . Head,neck main shots and chest shots under 250 yards. but for the price of ammo you can shoot .223 almost. The .17 HM2 is the .22 LR Stinger case necked down for a .172-inch bullet weighing 17 grains and with a ballistic coefficient of .125. The 17 HMR is a 22 wmr necked down to 17 cal. That's an extra 40 yards of non-adjusted range. Retail pricing for the VNT load is $10.95 for a 50-round pack. November 7, 2019. And yes it can be handloaded into 17 HM2 territory. Si. You could ask the same question why people make .22LR snub revolvers? I think the 17 HM2 cartridge is accurate enough and performs well enough to justify a "higher" power variable with an . You'll kill more if you can reach out further with a flatter shooter. Many converted 10/22 suffer excessive head space which leads to blown cases, and the subsequent jams. Along with the added speed, the 17 Mach 2 is also much flatter shooting than the .22 LR, making it more fun to use past 150 yards. The 22lr shoots half inch 5 shot groups at 50 yards with the most friendly ammo and the hm2 shots quarter inch groups with the most friendly ammo. 17 HMR vs 22 LR Trajectory. You would be much better served from a practical viewpoint by a 22 WMR. #1. Like 22WMR, on which the 17 HMR is based, the 17HMR ammo is outrageously expensive compared to 22LR and 17HM2. They are considerable smaller than the original bullet. It was supplied with a tungsten bolt. This is a great rifle for someone who wants all of the rimfires. Why does . If I were to come across a cheap used Weaver V-16 (4x16 variable) I would buy it and put it on my Rifle. The 17 WSM sends a 20 grain bullet out at 3000 fps, whereas the HMR is sending a 17 grain bullet at 2550 fps. Centerfire 17's are often wildcat cartridges. . With a 10/22M, the conversion is essentially a drop-in replacement conversion (simple barrel swap . Buffalo's Outdoors. hollow point (filled with polycarbonate) boat tail bullet with a 0.172" diameter and delivers a muzzle velocity of about 2550 fps (depending on the barrel length). If anyone finds one for sale, please send me a message. The blow-back semi-automatic Ruger 10/22 needed more bolt mass to time its fire, eject, and rechamber cycle to work right with this faster shooting 17 HM2 round. So why is it appealing, why wouldn't you just go with the . He is happy with the conversion he performed. The A17 HM2 works, is inexpensive and can be made very accurate by glass bedding action to stock. Unless I had a ground shot, I would have no business firing a .17 HMR up into the trees, to land who knows where. The 17 Gr bullet out of the 17 HM2 has about 97 ft/lb of energy at 100 Yds and it is flatter shooting than any 22 LR round. A lighter trigger gives you greater control and enables you to shoot better groups. If you insist on semiauto, you're practically limited to .22LR. Given .22s are easier to shoot, they can deliver this pain multiple times. The only real advantage that HM2 has over .17 HMR is the relative cost with HM2 originally being several cents cheaper. The Sako Quad comes in a hard case with four interchangeable barrels: .22 LR, .22 Mag, .17 Hm2 and .17 HMR. For anything out much farther then 100 yards it might be best to step up to . In a custom . . Save Share. The entire fore and aft ends are covered with a raised texture for gripping with the hand or a bag. Buffalo's Outdoors. The .17 WSM tends to be a bit more expensive than the .17 HMRthe HMR costs between $0.20 and $0.30 per round, while the .17 WSM comes in at $0.30 to $0.35 per roundso if cost is an . A ground squirrel is in real danger to 125 yards, perhaps more with good optics and a trained shooter. I had .17 HMRs in my .22 Magnum magazine of my Marlin model 882 22 mag rifle. Works great. The 17hm2 runs around .12 cents a round currently while the 17hmr runs .15-16 cents a round. Try a cz if you can great for the money and a trigger upgrade is cheap and easy to sort out. What's new. so I'd say it's a pretty feisty little firearm. Chenango Co. NY. Weight (lb)/ (kg) 5.7 / 2.59. The 17hmr and the 17 hm2 cant be switched in any gun ever . I can tell you the 17 HMR is effected by the wind more than any other caliber other than a 22 cal pellet rifle. Save Share. I am no scientist I can't tell you why. A 22lr can be single loaded in the mag but it is inaccurate and will 9 times out of 10 split the case. Thoughts and feedback would be interesting. No one makes a 10 round 22WMR/17HMR magnum magazine, you are most likely looking at the 22LR/17HM2 magazine. The most recent ad I have seen for one is dated Feb. 2008. The muzzle energy is 245 ft-lb and with a 1-10 . The .17 Mach 2 is clearly much faster than the fastest .22 LR Hyper Velocity load. Here's the data for comparison: 50 yds. Now, while the WSM needs just a touch of holdover at two-hundy, the HMR needs some careful attention out . Midway USA is carrying the .17 PMC version of this ammunition. Ammunition for the .17 HMR comes in at least nine different flavors. Thinking of getting one. Never been much of a fan of the round in a rifle (doesn't do anything my 22wmr doesn't do). The Ruger KMKIII817 pistol features a stainless steel frame, 8-inch stainless steel fluted heavy barrel, checkered cocobolo thumbrest . If you want to shoot 22lr buy a rifle chambered for it. The noise level on the 17 HM2 is noticeably less than with the 17 HMR and would be an advantage in areas where low noise is important." Shooting @ >2000fps, it still is a flatter shooting round than .22LR and .22mag. They sat on shelves a long time around here. MSRP: $379 Savage A17 HM2 $347 at Palmetto State Armory Vudoo Gun Works Raven When only the best will do, there's Vudoo. The Stinger was introduced by CCI in 1977, and its muzzle velocity of 1640 fps with a 32-grain bullet quickly added the word "hypervelocity" to the vocabularies of .22 Rimfire shooters around the world. I'm wondering if there is another bolt action rifle I should consider. If anyone finds one for sale, please send me a message. CCI's V-Max load is available at MidwayUSA for $7.99 per 50-round box. If you are only going to have one go for .17hmr, better range and close to flat shooting. Other, less expensive, ammo can be bought for only $0 . "Because you don't have a long 40-gr. The Mach 2 propels the same 17gr V-Max bullet as the 17 HMR, but the Mach 2 runs about 16% slower 2100 fps vs. 2500 for the 17 HMR. The 17 HM2 is a flat shooting tack driver with achievable velocities of 2,100 ft/s. round. The biggest advantage of the 17 Mach 2 is by far velocity (about 2100 fps), but you can get high end .22 LR velocity up in the range of 1600 fps with CCI's 32 grain Stinger. Even a high velocity .22 round can do this.`The bolt speed needs to be slowed down to what it was with a 22 round. The problem with the conversion is getting the timing right. I got 17HMR and 17 HM2 rifles when they first came out. This is an experiment gun for 100 and under (back yard) coyotes as I will shoot it with the 25 gr HP Hornady factory stuff for now. I did a bit of research today and found out that Ruger did have a .22 WMR model of the 10/22 that could easily be converted to 17HMR. I did a bit of research today and found out that Ruger did have a .22 WMR model of the 10/22 that could easily be converted to 17HMR. The problem with the 10/22 conversion to 17HM2 is the 10/22 is too crude for the fast pressure spike of the 17HM2 cartridge. The .22 will most certainly cause pain, which can be decisive in stopping an attack. The 17 HM2 and 17 HMR are Cooper 57M LVT rifles with Leupold scopes. It is much more recomended to conver a ruger 10/22M to 17 hmr but very expensive. Target shooting the 17HM2 works fine and you can do some small game hunting too. The .17 HMR 17 grain bullet drops the slowest and has a much flatter trajectory than the .22 LR. Lots of ammo variations possible from FMJ, Hollow Point, Ballistic Tip and more. I'm thinking of picking up a 17hmr pistol at some point in the foreseeable future. ER Shaw Custom Gun Barrels offers a .17 Aguila/PMC barrel for the Ruger 10/22 or 77/22 rifle which will allow you to shoot the Aguila/PMC round out of your Ruger with just a barrel swap. Introducing the A17 17 HM2 to the Savage semi-automatic A Series. So you want to shoot 17 HM2 out of a 17HMR barrel even though they are clearly two different sized cartridges which would require different chambers. The .17 HM2 can be fired in any modern .22 rimfire rifle or pistol with a simple barrel change, unless it's a semiautomatic. The STI 10/22 trigger has an 8 oz first stage take up. . Thread starter Si-snipe; Start date Feb 28, 2014; S. Si-snipe Well-Known Member. Basically, the purpose of a two-stage trigger is to divide pull weight into two separate actions, thereby effectively lowering your trigger pull weight. The fore stock has dual sling swivels for the use of a bipod and a sling and is flattened for use with a bag. For a $300 plinker or small-game getter, Savage's A17 in .17 HM2 is a fantastic little rifle. The .17 Mach II is a shorter round and the bullet would not be in the bore when the round is chambered. Back before the introduction of the rimfire 17's, some of us played with a little number called the 17 squirrel ( of course). Still many people have already shot the .17 HM2 from an otherwise stock 10/22, and done it successfully. The 17 HMR (Hornady Magnum Rimfire) ammo has a 17 gr. For squirrels I would be thinking close range and pick a 22. In fact, the .17 HM2's powder charge is significantly heavier than that of a 22 LR. The semiauto's bolt must move at the right speed and momentum to extract the empty case. Compare 22lr Muzzle Velocity and 22lr Muzzle Energy on the 22lr Ballistics Chart! The .17 HMR is based on the .22 WMR case necked down to accept .172" bullets. Considering that 17 HMR ammo costs $10 to $15 a box, the 17 Mach 2 is an excellent value by comparison. . Kimber and a few others chambered pistols in that caliber as well. If you're going to hunt them without a dog, I'd look for a .17 HM2. Most concealable guns, regardless of caliber, do not cause involuntary surrender. The rim diameter remains .291". The rifle I'll put it on is a threaded 10/22 for shooting critters from my porch (invasive collared doves and California ground squirrels). The "By-product" will be that a 10/22 will shoot much better with whatever barrel you hang off the front of it, or ammo you put in it. The chamber pressure and cartridge overall length are exactly the same as the .22 WMR, so any firearm that can be chambered for that cartridge can also be chambered for the .17 HMR. Neither of them will be as economical to shoot as a .22 Long Rifle, but I doubt you'll be shooting either of them in the same volume you would a .22 LR. The most recent ad I have seen for one is dated Feb. 2008. The 17 Mach 2 runs 2010-2100 FPS, making it much more potent than the .22 LR for varminting. The .17 HMR caliber has slightly less bullet drop from 150-175 yards than the .22 WMR. 2 may be in college now. You can convirt a 22 lr to a 22WMR/17HMR (for a ruger 10/22), the instructions are at rimfirecentral.com. The muzzle energy of the .17M2's 17-grain bullet (166 ft-lbs) is 18 percent greater than a 40-grain .22 LR (140 ft-lbs). The 22 rimfire rifles stay at home since seeing what the 17 rimfire rifles will do. You can only shoot what is clearly stamped on the receiver or barrel of a rifle or pistol. September 24, 2010 By kimberly madelon. And yet they can be incredibly similar in pricing, performance, and purpose. The Sako Quad HMR at just less than 200 yards. HEAD shots only under 125 yards only.And with 20gr jacketed bullets. Being the HM2 rounds are much shorter, it will not fire correctly in any gun chambered for HMR, bolt action or not. I can hit them at longer ranges but I wont clean kills. I figured out what went wrong. I hope he gets back to this project. A lighter trigger gives you greater control and enables you to shoot better groups. He shoots this in a 1911 frame pistol, originally chambered in .22LR, in 17 Hornady Mach 2 (HM2) 17 Grain V-MAX. Many varmint have been taken humanely out to 150 yards with the .22 WMR and .17 HMR. Media. New Offering from Hornady. Compared to a .22LR, the .17 HM2 crushes it in every category but price per box. .22 bullet sticking into the case we are up [to] 3 grains plus or minus,". It shoots a heck of a lot faster and flatter, however. I've been looking at a 17HM2 Volquartsen Summit topped with a Leupold VX-3i 4.5-14x50. Reply. Vudoo Gun Works now offers V-22 action rifles chambered for the 17 Hornady Mach 2 (aka 17 HM2) rimfire cartridge. By Kimberly Madelon. If you need that power for hunting fine, pay the ammo cost. First, there's the traditional 17-grain V-Max bullet at 2100 fps, which, when zeroed at 100 yards, drops 14 inches at 200. But to answer the OPs question you can shoot a 22WRF in a 22 . The 17hm2 can use the same magazines as a .22lr unless your talking a curved magazine over 10 rounds. Two cartridges that look vastly different. I think that the .22 LR is all the short to medium range varmint control that I will ever need. The 17 WSM is more expensive between 17 HMR and 17 WSM. It dont matter what type of gun you try to use the cartridges are not by any means interchangeable ! The A17 is an inexpensive target/varmint rifle. 100 yds. Based on the CCI stinger case, the .17Mach2 is a step up from the .22LR and a step down from the 17HMR performance-wise. The advantage of the .17 for most of us is accuracy and flat shooting. .22 ammo cost equivalent to HM2 ammo is pretty good, but you still have the option of cheap plinker ammo, an option not availble to shooters of .17s. Much of that can be attributed to the velocity of the of the .17 HMR 17 grain bullet which is the fastest of the four compared here at a velocity of 2,550 (FPS). There is 5.4 gr of what looks like Lil' Gun powder.
Hidalgo County Assumed Business Name Search, Webtpa Timely Filing Limit, Lsu Assistant Director Salary, Essential Oil For Burnt Tongue, Calgary Housing Rentals, Chocolate Milk Strain, Fanatec Csl Elite Racing Wheel, Autobianchi Bianchina Trasformabile For Sale,